Dr Eddie Haro Eureka Square Chiropractic
Vicki Moore (00:04):
Okay. Pacifica locals. We are here at the Pacifica chamber of commerce with Dr. Eddie Haro from Eureka square chiropractic. And we did a video, I don’t know, a month or so ago, month.
Eddye Haro (00:17):
Yeah, a little bit about that almost two months ago. Yeah. And
Vicki Moore (00:21):
Robby Bancroft said he wanted to see the stuff that you can’t find on Google. So, so we were the real deal, the real story. So he said, oh, should be like the Oprah of Pacifica. And I said, Oprah is old, that’s a little old. So I said, I want to be the Joe Rogan of Pacific. So this is our first episode of Joe bruh. And, I thought we’d just kinda have a conversation. Initially you talked about,uyou worked at APS and was that where you were injured?
Oceana High School
Eddye Haro (00:59):
So, no, actually it was in high school originally. So I went to Oceana high school just right up the street my freshman year, but then I transferred to south San Francisco high school, and then there, I wrestled now I want it to play sports. I’ll show you on at the time, didn’t have a football or wrestling now they do, but I want it to wrestle. So they have sports now they have sports now. Yeah. So I just missed out. Yeah. So you know, just over, you know, wrestling, you know, repetitive, you know, throwing motions and, you know, being thrown down and what have you, I ended up hurting my back and to the point where, you know, it was, I couldn’t move. I was, you know, I would have muscle spasms and pain down my leg and, you know, so at the time I saw a chiropractor and then I was also in a car accident.
So, you know, we, we saw a chiropractor, but I didn’t really know what chiropractic was at the time. You know, we just, I just went, you know, they adjusted me, I got better. Okay. Like chiropractor wasn’t explained to me. So
Vicki Moore (01:56):
I know when I used to go to chiropractor especially when I was a kid, I got into a couple car accidents and we used to go to Dr. Olander in south city and he, he would adjust me and then I would feel awesome and I would go back to whatever I was doing. And then I would hurt myself again. So did you know, to kind of take it easy and this was in high school, right. So I’m going to guess that being in high school, you just went right back to what you were doing.
Eddye Haro (02:27):
Oh, no, it what, right back to what I was doing. And then, you know, so from then on that kind of set, like a little dis slippery slope of just more injuries for me. So I was, I remember I was taking an auto shop class and I wanted to put my car on the lift. So me, you know, 16 years old, like my car was a little too low for the lip. So I literally went to the front right. Of the car where the fender is, and I tried to lift up the car to suck and just, you know, get it. So I had like one of my buddies. All right. Can you just
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Put the lift? Yeah. This I’m going
Eddye Haro (02:59):
To live and you put, and no, you just put, put the bow, the arm for the, for the, you know, to lift the car up on the, on the bottom of the cardboard where the anchor is. And so I lifted it and, you know, I was okay, you know, I’m strong, you know, I’m a big guy, whatever. Well,
Vicki Moore (03:13):
And I mentioned that because I said, I need a booster seat.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So I’m sitting on the edge of the chair,
Vicki Moore (03:19):
Because if I sit in the chair, then I look like a little midget. So anyway, okay. It’s a bigger lift in the car
Eddye Haro (03:24):
Of the car. And then, you know, later that day, my back just spasm up. I was like, this, I could not move. I locked up. I threw out my back. And so, you know, I had to go back to the chiropractor and, you know, I got adjusted and you know, that, that helped, but like, you know, still doing, you know, dumb things like that. And that’s young. So I was 16.
So, you know, and then all people have different kinds of injuries like this. And, you know, they don’t, you know, some people don’t know what to do. Like they don’t know what to go about, you know, they’ll go to their primary doctor and we’ll give them medications, drugs, and, you know, all right, well, here’s some muscle relaxers and some painkillers [inaudible]
Speaker 3 (04:06):
For a minute. Yeah.
Eddye Haro (04:08):
But so you know, the injuries like that. And then so that my back was prone to getting injured. And then so now going back to, after I graduated high school, you know, I worked at ups during my undergrad at south at San Francisco State. And just doing repetitive motions, loading boxes into trailers. That’s when I had a discrimination. I,
Vicki Moore (04:28):
So how old were you when that happened? So when that happened, I was
Eddye Haro (04:33):
Say 29 20.
Vicki Moore (04:36):
Okay. So you’re still thinking you’ve got this rock, solid body guy. I’m strong. I can do this. And
Eddye Haro (04:43):
You know, I was running, I run, I do a little bit of jujitsu with train, you know, I’m, I’m working out at the gym, you know, lifting weights and everything, but, you know, but just, you know, in proper body mechanics, I mean, the body can only take so much. So I mean, doing, you know, doing this a lot, that that can just damage you.
So, you know, I had a disc herniation, I had pain down my leg. I couldn’t walk. I could, you know, literally walking from taking three steps from here to there. I couldn’t do it. I’d have to stop and bend down and just, you know, try and breathe and contain myself if you have just a group rate.
Vicki Moore (05:18):
So this is while you’re at ups and you’re going to school at San Francisco State. And what were you studying there?
Eddye Haro (05:24):
Psychology. So, you know, when I graduated high school, I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I was like, okay, do I want to be an auto mechanic? You know, I like cars. I wanted to have my we’re trying to lift the car. I liked cars. So I was like, I didn’t want to be a mechanic or I don’t know, maybe it came to business. So I ended up going to CSM community college and, you know, just try to figure myself out
Vicki Moore (05:48):
There, got some general ed credits,
Eddye Haro (05:51):
Just my grandma did my general ed two years. And then my plan was to transfer to a university or state university. They, you know what auto shop they did not. So yeah, they didn’t, they didn’t have it then. I don’t know. Ah, yeah. You know, I’ll get hurt myself more.
Yeah. So I ended up majoring start off with business and then, you know, I started taking some accounting classes, let me know, maybe I want to be an accountant. You know, I liked numbers and this was good, but then it got a little too hard, a little too tedious. Then I was just kind of bored. But so, you know, I switched the psychology, you know, people liked talking to me, I’m, I’ve been told I’m a good listener. So I switched to psychology and I found it really interesting. So
Vicki Moore (06:31):
You went to state and you’ve got a little bit of education in psychology, became dangerous, dangerous enough to read people. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Vicki Moore (06:41):
That off because I know a lot of like psychologists, psychiatrists, they, they don’t turn that skill off.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No, it was always analyzing, always looking around, you know,
Eddye Haro (06:50):
I, people tell me, I’m kinda like, I can tend to be quiet and reserved, you know? Like what do you seem like? You’re always watching. You’re always thinking, what are you thinking? I’m like, oh no, I’m just, you know, hanging out. But yeah, I can’t help it. And I’ve always been that way. So, you know, I suppose psychology, you know, like that’s, I think this seems like a good fit.
So, you know, I majored in psychology. I transferred to SF State. I wanted to become a psychiatrist, you know, I was all right, do I be, do I just do a general therapist or go to psychiatry? And then, you know, like I was thinking, you know, I want to be a doctor like being a doc. I, you know, I want to help people. I want to, I want to do that so large, you know, this’ll be a good pathway to get into it.
Eddye Haro (07:27):
You know, I didn’t want to be a surgeon or just a general, you know, the general practitioner like psychology, like with psychology. I wanted to do that. So I started taking my pre-med classes, basic science classes, and started doing that. And you know, that was going great. And then solved this back. Injury happened again, the still working at ups. Do you know what with the discrimination? Yeah.
So, and then at the time, you know, I hadn’t been to a chiropractor, you know, maybe six years. So I started, you know, I went on Yelp, like everybody does, you know, go on the internet. All right. Let’s see. Cause I’ll still live in a Pacifica here at the time. So I, I went on Yelp, Google contractors near me. And then that’s when I found Dr. Ken Thomas or Eureka square. And, you know, we got good reviews as well.
Eddye Haro (08:15):
You know, everybody seems like, you know, idea. Yeah. I checked them out and then I went and yeah, I guess there was this one morning. I could not get out of bed. I, the that’s when I looked and by her, I need somebody. And then they saw me right away that day, this, I was like an acute case. Like I could barely walk and they got me in. Yeah. And.
He’s like, yeah, you’re young, you’re 20 years old, but you should not, you know, have this going on, not lifting cars. And then, you know, the short of, you know, my son, my old x-rays and then I have what’s called a lumbar degeneration.
So it looks like this. So this is a healthy disc is healthy. Well, first of all, what we’re looking at, this is your low back right here. Okay. So this is your lumbar spine. So this is this area right here. So this is a healthy disc. This is what healthy vertebras should look like. So I was more like down here. So you see how this disc is nice and plump,
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Right? Yeah. Mine was
Eddye Haro (09:15):
A little more decreased. Let’s start then and out. So, you know, just over repetitive injuries in sports, you know, this starts breaking down and that’s what makes maybe susceptible more to injuries. And then, you know, I was, you know, I was training, but not smart. I wasn’t strengthening my core. And you know, so I’m doing lots of twisting. It’s not good for
Vicki Moore (09:33):
That. So strengthening your core will help with your back pain
Eddye Haro (09:39):
And think about it. Like when you wear a brace, like a back brace, you know, that helps support you. Cause it helps keep you supported and you know, freedom around. Yeah. But your muscles, that’s what they naturally do. Your muscles are like a natural back brace. Like here are the three core this area.
So you want to keep that strong and, you know, keep your whole body strong. But that be being strong and having those muscles and ligaments support, you know, your bones, your body will help prevent injuries.
Vicki Moore (10:08):
Strengthening my core. I think of like laying on the floor and doing crunches. And, but I’m a Pinterest nut. And so I’ve seen on Pinterest, you know, you don’t have to lay on the floor and hold your neck and do all this stuff. You can actually strengthen your, I strengthened, I do my core exercises with the hairdryer in my hand, you know, you just, or when I’m driving, you just suck your stomach in. And if you just kind of hold it and sort of move side to side, you can do these exercises without making a big production of an hour a day. You can do them when you’re driving, when you’re sitting at your desk. And
Eddye Haro (10:45):
Yeah. And it’s more functional, like more functional training, you know, it’s more real-world stuff like of what you’re actually doing. So, I mean, that’s great. Like, you know, getting creative because who wants to lay on the floor and do crunches
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Eddye Haro (10:58):
Half an hour? Just, yeah, it’s painful.
Vicki Moore (11:02):
Okay. So you’re at ups. This is what you went to see Dr. Thomas. Okay. So then what
“I’m going to be a chiropractor.”
Eddye Haro (11:11):
Happened? And then so yeah, so, you know, he, he helped me, you know, he took a few adjustments to, you know, get me back to being out of pain. No. Cause some, sometimes people think like, all right, I’m gonna go to a chiropractor. They’re gonna crack me, adjust me and boom, I’m, I’m going to be fixed. You know, they expect like a miracle right away. I mean, sometimes people get lucky. It happens, you know, one adjustment, you know, they can get better, but most of the time it doesn’t, it takes it’s a process. Okay. Yeah.
Vicki Moore (11:39):
I was seeing a chiropractor in San Mateo for a while and he said, it’s like going to the gym, you, you, you have to keep going, you go eat macaroni and cheese. Then you got to go to the gym and chiropractic is like that to you, you go do whatever you were doing. Or you walk that certain way that created the problem where you lift a box or you do that movement that, that ruins the adjustments. So you have to go back. But I used to say, why, why are you, why am I have to keep coming back? Well, because I keep moving.
Eddye Haro (12:11):
Yeah. I mean, initially, you know, when you’re hurt right away. Yeah. You need to go and, you know, get, get treated, you know, make sure the tissues heal. You know, the joints are, you know, moving, you know, back in place where they should, you know, there’s no fixations, you know, D that needs to happen. Cause there’s the first, the injury phase. And then after that, you go into the repair phase and then, you know, then the justice starts to start being spread out. And then once you’re good, you’re back to where you were, you know, pre-injury status.
Then you notice this maintenance, you know, maybe no, we recommend our patients come in. If they’re not at that, no issues. If they’re, pain-free, you know, if their bodies are good, you know, coming in, you know, four times a year, you know, w I least, you know, it’s good to assist. Like, you know, when you go to a dentist, like, you know, you go for a checkup, you know, two times a year, it’s the same thing, you know, with your spine, you only have one spine. Do you need to take care of it?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, if you lose a tooth, you know, you can get, [inaudible] good to go. You can even upgrade
Eddye Haro (13:18):
Your teeth nowadays. Yeah. But you know what, the spine, you can’t just go in and take out the spine and put a new one in, you know, you gotta take care of what you got.
Vicki Moore (13:27):
Okay. So you went to Dr. Thomas, but you’re still going to school. So where did the switching of majors happen to you?
Eddye Haro (13:36):
Switch? Yeah, so, so, you know, after, you know, doc Thomas helped me out, you know, with my back, I was, you know, I was better you know, I still kept going so on the heart, you know, I feel better when I, you know, I want to get adjusted. All right.
So, you know, I would go like about once a month, you know, just to get my regular checkups, you know, get adjusted. And then, you know, I would still have my, you know, injuries here and there, you know, my Backwoods stiffen up, you know, working out because I, and I was a runner too. I would run a lap, you know, my legs would get tight and, you know, so I needed, you know, he helped me out with stretches and then, you know, down excellent massage therapist there who, you know, would stretch me out, we’ll snap my muscles.
Eddye Haro (14:13):
And, you know, so I started, you know, getting to know him, getting to talk to him and, you know, he started that’s when I started learning more about what chiropractic was, you know, not just, you know, boom, boom, crack pop, are you good to go? Are you feeling better? I, you know, they started telling me, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s about the nervous system. It’s about making sure that, you know, cause you have your brain and the nerves start from the brain and goal all throughout your body, to your arms, to your heart lungs, do you know, intestines, your feet, everything like, so if a nerve has interference, you know, and, and that’s, you know, going to your lungs and if that nerve is not working, you know, you’re not breathing as well as you should.
You’re not operating to your full potential. So, you know, it’s like sometimes we get to this like a garden hose example, you know, if you have a garden hose and this in your big, you know, garden, and if there’s like a rock that pinches that hose, you know, that the water’s not going through and it’s not getting to the garden.
Eddye Haro (15:09):
And you know, you have to you have to unblock that you have to take that rock out. So when, when we examine the spine, you know, we were looking to see where that rock board, where that’s pension on a nerve or where a vertebra is, you know, moved out of alignment. You know, we we’re, we’re, we’re, we’re examining, we’re figuring out where it is. And then we find it, we adjust it. And you know, that that nerve can, you know, full flow better. And it stops the pain. And, you know, eventually it stops the pain. I mean, so that’s the thing too. Some, sometimes people don’t have pain, you know, they’re there, you know, joints will be locked up and, you know, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll examine them like, okay, like, you know, do you feel anything here? And then they’re like, oh, you know what? That is tender, but they didn’t feel it before. And like, yeah. So, you know, this joint is not moving as well as these other ones are. Cause you know, movement is life joints want to move.
Vicki Moore (16:00):
Yeah. And sometimes people get that. I know for me, you get used to the pain. You almost don’t notice it anymore.
Eddye Haro (16:08):
Yeah. A lot of people just live with the heart, you know, that’s, that’s all, that’s how I’ve always felt. You know, it’s just part of life, but you know, a thing that people are really familiar with arthritis. So when joints don’t move, that’s when arthritis sets in, because Joerns want to move. When, when, when they get stuck, they become arthritic and they start degrading breaking down. So, and then that’s what happened with me as well. So with my injuries, I would get hurt and you know, I would have other injuries in the past and I wasn’t in necessarily so much pain down my, okay, I need to go see somebody to get this taken care of and that, you know, that locks up and that starts breaking down. And that’s why I had such, you know, degeneration in my low back, you know, at a young age. Yeah. Then I didn’t know that then, you know, that’s what Dr. Thomas taught me that he, he explained all that to me, you know, you know, you need to get this handled, do you need to get these joints moving? And you know, you need to receive care and, you know, so you
Vicki Moore (17:03):
Kept going back because you felt better
Eddye Haro (17:06):
Because I felt better. And you know, I, I went for him. I went to him
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Eddye Haro (17:15):
So long stay like at two, two years in, yeah, I was done. I started thinking like, you know what, maybe I want to be a chiropractor. You know, I could see myself doing this, working with my hands and, you know, a more natural holistic approach because we know in psychiatry, you know, I, I was more, I, I wanted to, you know, use more psychoanalysis, you know, and not prescribed so many medications and drugs.
I want to be known just to be able to talk to people and, you know, help them with their problems. But, you know, with chiropractor, you know, there’s, it’s, it’s completely, you know, the medications were still helping. And then, you know what, there’s a little bit of psychology in that as well. So I’m like, you know what, I think I’m gonna, I’m gonna switch to chiropractic. I’m gonna, you know, change my path. I was already taking my pre-med classes already, you know, science possible, you know, that the change wasn’t too drastic. So after I graduated SF State, I you know, I took a little break. About nine months, I still had a couple of classes to take. I went back to CSM take a couple of pre-recs. I still needed and then transferred to life chiropractic college west on Hayward.
Vicki Moore (18:24):
And they started taking classes there. We talked just briefly before I turned on the video, my mother wanted me to be a chiropractor. And as soon as I found out about the cadavers, I said, no way I forgot, but we used to go to Dr. Olander in south city. And she, she, you know, he had race horses and he, I mean, he was just rolling in dough. You would go into the treatment room. And it was, it was a lineup of four or five rooms. And they were like, stalls, you’d go into your stall. And then he would open the door. You’d go into this big room where he would adjust you and then you would leave and then he’d open the next door and the person would come out of their stall and go. And, but it’s not like that at Dr. Thomas’s office. Talk a little bit about the treatment process there. Yeah.
Eddye Haro (19:13):
So when patients first come in, you know, they’re greeted by one of the assistants, one of the massage therapists and you know, that they bring them to the room, they ask them, you know, how they’re doing, you know, how their body’s feeling, you know, what were the areas of concern, you know, that they mark it down, you know, for Dr. Thomas or myself. And then, you know, they, they lay them on the table and then they start working on those areas to start warming, warming them up, you know, stretching, you know, getting the body loose. Cause we, we find that the adjustments go a lot better once the body’s, you know, warmed up and
Vicki Moore (19:45):
You just don’t go in there and snaps about it. And then they’re gone. You have like a, a stress like you would, if you were working out a stretching time. Yeah.
Eddye Haro (19:54):
I mean, so some patients, you know, they, they, they want to just have the adjustments, but just don’t want the normal process, but you know, most of them do. That’s just, I mean, there’s different ways of, of, you know, practicing chiropractors that made their techniques. But here at Eureka square where we were more sports-oriented. We do a lot of rehab work, sports injuries and a lot of muscle muscle
Vicki Moore (20:18):
Long-Term. I would imagine it’s more long-term because if you’re dealing with athletes, they’re constantly playing, they’re constantly injuring or reinjuring. So you’re looking at them or they’re either avoiding an injury or recovering from an injury over, I would imagine a long period.
Eddye Haro (20:36):
Exactly. And then, I mean, also, I mean, we see a wide variety of patients as well. We see, you know, from newborns to elderly. Yeah. You know, from womb to, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, people just know it’s funny. A lot of people don’t know that, you know, they’re they think, okay, like in an infant, a child, you know, how are you going to adjust them? But I mean, you can, you’re not, you’re not doing the standard way of, you know, using too much work, but it’s a lot more gentle, you know, you just, you know, you, you, you feel you’re examined, you know, neck, the spine and, you know, we have a, what we call an activator. We can use that school. It’s a little impact tool. So it just goes like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or, you know, you can use your fingers very gently. You don’t have to use a lot of force. Well, I know
Vicki Moore (21:29):
I get migraines occasionally and I can go and get an adjustment and it’s gone. So I know like I could suffer with this terrible pain and, you know, can’t see, and all this for a couple of days, or I can go to a chiropractor and get it done very quickly, get rid of it. And it helps with allergies too.
Chiropractic helps allergies
Eddye Haro (21:49):
I’ll do that as well. Yeah. So we know what the sinuses, you know, especially now in the springtime, you know, a lot of palms out. So I’ve been seeing a lot of people with sinuses and, you know, we can drain the sinuses, you know, here, the left frontal sinus is in here and we moved the activator tool. Then it said, you know, we, we can, we can adjust here and you don’t get, just get everything drained, get, get, get the sinuses cleared and heal to help with allergies, to help just get that, all that gunk out of your system, just to process through, because what, that will just all about all the pollen, you know, you breathe it in and it just gets stuck in there. And that’s, what’s irritating your body and causing, you know, all the symptoms of sneezing.
Vicki Moore (22:28):
Yeah. I’ve got them really bad right now. I don’t like to take the allergy pill, but it’s either that, or my eyes are just running all day or maybe I need to think about some chiropractor adjustments. Oh no,
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I think [inaudible].
Vicki Moore (22:50):
So you went to life chiropractic. Were you still working at ups?
Eddye Haro (22:54):
So I was, I was still, and then by this time, so I was living at the Southern Pacifica, but five months before I started life west, I moved to Oakland to the east bank to be closer to the school, but I was still working at ups. And my plan was I wanted to work the first two years of chiropractic school. So proper schools, four years, I want to do the first two, you know, just to kind of offset. I was going to take out student loans and, you know, that was a whole ordeal. And I mean that, so, you know, let’s do it on the student loan part that, that like scared me. That that was, I was a lot, you know, even with med school. Cause you know what I mean, either way I was gonna have to take out student loans. So I, at one point I was even thinking of maybe not, you know, just graduate in SF state.
Eddye Haro (23:42):
And I was at ups at the time and I was thinking of just becoming a driver ups driver. And then, you know, I was already there, you know, I had good benefits, you know, it’s, it was, you know, I, I, I, I would be set, you know, I’d be, you know, got to be comfortable, but I felt like I wanted more. I wanted to, you know, see, see what my potential was. I want it to achieve, you know, in my family, I was the first college graduate. So, you know, that was like a big deal to my family. And you know, that, that made them proud. And then I was sticky enough to be a doctor, you know, that I was just breaching. Now this is milk. And I’m kinda stubborn sometimes kind of hard-headed. So I was like, you know what I put the, I could do this.
Eddye Haro (24:22):
Let’s stop my heart going to be let’s, let’s go for it. And then, but then I started seeing like what it actually took, you know, the commitment the long hours. And it was gonna be a lot of schooling and then taking out loans. And I was like that, I, I I’m, I have to work. And you know as much as I can, you know, it’s kind of offset that, but so I, I, you know, I wanted to work my first two years. I only ended up working one year, cause right away off the bat and our car back to school classes are from eight to five. You’re there all day. There’s a lot of school, a lot of studying and it’s a quarter system. So, you know, the, each quarter is only 12 weeks and it’s like really fast-paced. Like you start off and then before, you know, it you’re, you got to study for exams and midterms and everything with that. And then on top of that, I was working at ups back in south city. So I would be in school.
Vicki Moore (25:13):
So you were in school, the school wasn’t in Hayward. So then you’d go to south Sydney for ups and then you’d go to Oakland because for, because that’s where you live
Eddye Haro (25:25):
Back, you know, eat dinner, go to sleep and then wake up again, like five hours later did that for a year. So I mean, it’s, it’s a lot, some, some people they can do it fine, but I learned real quick that yeah, my grades are starting to suffer at first. Yeah. It was, it was rough. It was rough. Yeah. I was like, Ooh, this is not as easy as I thought it was going to be. But you know, I, I sucked it up for a year. And then you know, talking to Dr. Thomas, you know, he, that’s, when he became my mentor, he’s like D told me we got a serious talk. I was like, you know, what, if you’re really serious about chiropractic, you know, you’re gonna have to make a decision. You have to give up something, you know, either you’re gonna do it or you’re not, and you’re gonna have to focus, you know, a hundred percent on par back if you’re going to do it and then focus on school and you’re going to have to, you know, quit, you know, not to pull ups and then cause at the time also, so I started, you know, I was re-injured my back again.
Eddye Haro (26:24):
You know, my, my discrimination came back. I started having the pain down my leg again. And then, yeah. And then, you know, I was going on disability. I was taking time off of work and you know, it just became a point where it wasn’t even worth it anymore. I wasn’t working enough hours to, you know, get getting my insurance, get my benefits because I had, I was taking time off to study for exams and everything taking time off to beat because you’re injured because I was injured.
So it was just, you know, I was like, you know what? And then just for me, like I needed to fully commit. I needed to focus on school. I needed to study as much as I can, you know, like school, like studying and school. Like I w I was, I was a decent student, you know, some people, I was always jealous of them, you know, they would just study the material night before boom. And, you know, get a test. Yeah. I was not like that at school. So that did not come easy to me like that. So I needed that extra time and focus and commitment to,
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Yeah. If you’re there from eight to five, then you’re going to ups to work and you’re driving from Oakland to Hayward, to south city, back to Oakland. There’s no time in there for anything. No, we’re eating a lot of drives that are
Eddye Haro (27:39):
No, I tried that. I was good on that. I is sometimes you’re there, but yeah. So subway a lot of time. Oh, subway. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
That’s you, you’re not going to be cooking. Nah.
Eddye Haro (27:51):
Yeah. I would. I mean, I wouldn’t meal prep. I would do that. I did know. I would try, you know, so I still try to help try to eat healthy. And but yeah, I mean, it was tough. It was, it was a long area, but and then after, yeah, I quit ups and they were sad to see me go. They didn’t want me to leave, but like, know what you’re gonna, you’re leaving, you know, they
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Found your passion, but
Eddye Haro (28:16):
Yeah. But they know they understood like, yeah, I didn’t know that that’s awesome. You know, we wish you the best of luck and, you know, we understand, you know, do what you gotta do.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
So was it a given that you would go and work with Dr. Thomas? Was that decided early in the process?
Eddye Haro (28:31):
No, actually I like in the back of my mind always hope. Like I was like, you know, I can see myself working here. You know, this will be awesome, but I, it, it wasn’t. And you know, but, and then so later on I realized, I found out, you know, talking with them, you know, you always had in the back of his mind too, he was like, you know, maybe I could see myself working with him, but I never brought it up. I was, you know, too, I didn’t feel it was my place. I didn’t feel it was appropriate. Like, I don’t know. I didn’t want to be like a burden. I don’t know. I, I have trouble asking for help. I’m always told you know, my girlfriend always tells me, she’s like, yeah, you need to ask for help. Like, you know, when you need it, you know, I guess I’m back to the stubbornness too proud, I guess.
Eddye Haro (29:16):
Yeah. but yeah, no, but I mean, Dr. Thomas always throughout my school, you know, he always helped me out. He would reach out and, you know, ask me how I’m doing. You know, he would give me resources and you know, we’d stay in touch. You know, we need, we knew each other. He was like, not an official mentor at the time, but you know, we were, but I still saw him, you know, he was my doctor and I was split and he’s like, he’s really busy. And I, and also, I didn’t want to impose, I don’t want to, you know, I felt like I was bothering him, but no, he always told me, I know if you need any help, if you need anything, reach out, you know?
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah. with chiropractic, do you, do you have to have like practical hours, do you have to be in an office and shadowing or following or something? So
Eddye Haro (30:05):
You see, so do you need a clinic hours? So in school, yeah. Did you saw your third year, your, your last year of schooling? You you’re, you’re in the clinic, you’re in, you’re the student clinic or you’re seeing that they have it there yet. It’s on campus on site, but you have you have to complete a minimum amount of hours and adjustments on patients. And some people do it really, really quick, and then they finish to get through it. And then you can go and do a preceptorship and an externship at a, at an office and then get experienced there. It’s not required, but you, you can do it, but you have to finish those members there at the school now at life west. They, they, in, in other schools, I believe you can, you can go to other clinics, like go, go to out to opposites and complete your hours. But I like west, we wouldn’t have that option.
Vicki Moore (30:59):
So what point did you work it out that you would be working at Eureka square?
Eddye Haro (31:05):
So my last and my last year, so literally the last year so I was finishing up clinic and, you know, I was, I was, you know, cause I, I would still go get adjusted with Dr. Thomas. I didn’t have a lot of time during school, but like during, during my breaks I would go and then, you know, we started talking more than, you know, eating.com to start kind of asking me. Yeah.
So, you know, what are your plans like after? And I’m like, you know, honestly, I don’t know yet. But I’m, I’m gonna start looking around, you know? Yeah. You know, I need a job. So I started, you know, see another looking around at other offices and then I kinda joked. I’m like, I dunno, maybe you’re looking for somebody here. I don’t know. He kind of laughed too. And then, you know, was like, all right.
Eddye Haro (31:48):
But yeah. Then one day he texted me. He’s like, Hey, are you available this Saturday? Are you, are you free? I’m like, yeah. He’s like, yeah, come by the office kind of an assessment. See what I’ve learned, you know, practice do some, do some setups. So pretty much that’s what I took it as I’m like, oh, snap, this sounds like an interview. I’m like, oh, but he didn’t say he was like, I just want to talk about seeing, you know, what your plans are and everything. I’m like just an interview. So yeah.
So I ended up going, you know, I went, you know, I dressed professional. They also knew that I don’t want her to do it’s going backwards cap or anything. So I thought that she probably would dress up for this. I was when I was talking to my friends, I’m like, let’s not look at it.
Eddye Haro (32:27):
Every two. It’s like, oh, like, dude, that’s. Yeah, because that’s the don’t you want to work there? Let’s like the doctor I’m like, yeah. Okay. So I should, you know, prepare and then yeah, I went and, you know, we sat down and talked, you know, about what my plans were. And I told them, yeah, I mean, I’m cause I was, I was, I started looking at it of the opposites, you know, the doctors were looking for an associate [inaudible] and the options. And I didn’t know, I was telling them that. And I told him, he asked me, we know what, what my qualifications were. And I told him, you know, saw, cause I I’m also, you know, sports-oriented chiropractic, you know? I do Kinesio taping. I use RockTape, you know, I was talking. Yeah. Like I use that. So I’m familiar with, so have you ever seen the athletes? Like, so like they have tape on the arms? Yeah. They’ll have like a stripper band. Yeah. That’s a Kinesio tape. So they, they use that for pain management and support. So it helps. Is it
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Like taking off a bandaid? Is it going to work all your hair or? Yeah.
Eddye Haro (33:28):
So it does. So I mean, I, yeah, if you’re herring go against, go, go with the grain, go with the brand where you’re taking that out. Yeah. But yeah, it helps with performance and with pain management and helps with muscle tension and it has a lot of other stuff.
Vicki Moore (33:45):
So it sounds like you can kind of guide athletes in keeping from getting injured as well as helping them after they’ve been, been injured or
Athletes and injury
Eddye Haro (33:57):
Exactly. So, you know, with what sports rehab, you know, we, we treat a lot of injuries and then even post-surgery cases, you know, the scar tissue forms when, when that happens, when injuries happen. So our job is to break down that scar tissue because what scar tissue, when that forms, the area becomes stiff, sore and weak and painful. And you know, so, you know, that becomes limited motion. So, you know, you want to break all that up and you don’t get it, you know, moving no back to its original state.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
What would you tell athletes about how to take care of their bodies when they’re playing? And
Eddye Haro (34:38):
So, I mean, nutrition and diet is, is key for one just, yeah. That’s first, you know, staying hydrated for sure. Cause you know, it’s, you know, w w with playing, you know, playing sports and, you know, working out, you know, your body’s going through a lot, you know, and after a, it needs to repair itself, it needs to, you know, recuperate. So the nutrition for sure is key. And then, you know, proper training, proper, you know, and not overdoing it,
Vicki Moore (35:05):
The difference between, you know, training hard and overdoing it, pushing yourself.
Eddye Haro (35:10):
No. Yeah. So we, yeah, we see that for sure, to those people who, you know, are sedentary don’t do enough, but then there’s some people that are out there they’re out there. Yeah. Go on or, you know, going a hundred miles an hour. But yeah. I mean, you can also do too much it’s you need to find that, you know, that sweet balance that, that middle ground where,
Speaker 6 (35:28):
So nutrition and water, and then that the balance of not.
Eddye Haro (35:33):
Yeah. So I, you know, proper training, you know, so would what exercise. So, you know, there’s, there’s strength, training, there’s cardio, you know, make sure you have proper cardio and then stretching. So a lot of people, some, some, sometimes a lot of injuries happen from people just not stretching. Now I’ve heard
Vicki Moore (35:49):
About, do you stretch before or after or both or in the middle or what, what’s the deal with stretching? Oh, should be stretching all the time.
Eddye Haro (35:57):
All the time. Yeah. So I’m in for a workout, like personally, I like to warm up on the, on the treadmill or elliptical or, you know, a light job. You have to skip the heart, pumping, get the blood flowing, and then, you know, doing some stretches cause you don’t want to stretch too intensive right away, you know, muscles, you know, they’re tights. Like they’re like rubber bands, you know, they’re, they’re step, you got up. So
You warm up a little bit, do a little bit of stretching. Then you go work out, do your, like, you’re the major part of your workout. And then you stretch again and then you stretch
Eddye Haro (36:26):
Again. Yeah. Like a pull down period, do that. And then but also, you know, at home, you know, go before going to bed in the morning, you know, doing some light, stretches, not going too hard. It’s like some muscles are or are tight. You know, they need to be a warmed up deal January slowly. So, you know, doing, doing some stretching also is good in the morning, in the morning, in the morning, waking up and then before going to bed, it’s also some, some
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Good like I said, Pinterest is a really good source for that. You can find a lot of good exercises, you know, stretching that you can do while you’re still in bed or when you’re in the car or whatever. So what, what would you advise someone who’s thinking about becoming a chiropractor? What, what do they need to know?
Eddye Haro (37:15):
So they, they need to know, you know,
Vicki Moore (37:19):
It’s a commitment,
Eddye Haro (37:21):
It is a commitment, you know, just therapy, you know I would do, you know, reach out to a chiropractor, you know, wherever they’re at, you know, a local that, you know, in their town office, you know, just, you know, you can shadow them, you know, see, see what a day in the life is like, you know how, you know, you interact with patients, you know, what, what you do with patients know for sure. I mean, just with anything, you know, if you’re getting into any kind of career, you know, just, you know, talk to somebody, you know, who’s already doing it. Yeah. That’s what I would
Chiropractic as a career
Vicki Moore (37:49):
Do. Would you, do you think it’s a good career for people to get into? Would you do it again?
Eddye Haro (37:55):
I’ll do it again. Yeah. I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it was, it was a long journey, but you know what, those, those long hard journeys are usually the most rewarding at the end. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. I found I’m, I’m very fortunate to have found, you know, my passion, my calling, you know, it took a while to find it, you know, I, I went through a lot of different changes and everything, and then, and then going through you know, not, not going, not, not doing it.
Actually, so before I started chiropractic school, my father passed away and suddenly, and I, that kind of, I, I didn’t want to do any school on that. That’s kind of going back to, so I was at ups. I was just thinking of, you know, how to, I don’t have the right mindset to just go to school.
Eddye Haro (38:43):
I almost dropped out. I didn’t want us to this too hard at times. So that, that was a little rough patch there. And I was all right, well, my I’m, I’m a ups, you know, I’m settled here. I can just, you know, do this but time. Exactly. Yeah. Cause I mean, chiropractors, you know, we’re, we’re, we’re small business owners, you know, we’re on our own.
We don’t have, you know, like in the medical field, you know, just, you know, everybody just comes to you, you have to go out with, you know, bring, bring the patients, you know, you got to teach people like what chiropractic is and know what we do.
Vicki Moore (39:20):
Yeah. Talking to small business owners. I’m, I’m one myself. And it’s really hard. And I know you know, kind of going back to all wonder, and you know, you, you look at someone in their career and you think how successful they are and you look at it from the outside and think, wow, you know, they make all this money and you know, must be so easy. Nothing is easy.
First of all. And when you’re looking at people, you know, you have to realize what they went through to get where they are. And with real estate and any, any small business, you know, it takes years, it takes years. And then anything can throw it completely under the bus about economy, you know, bills, overextending, yourself, spending maybe too much money in marketing or whatever it is. Small business is a really, really tough way to make a living.
So you, can’t just, I know people do all the time. They look, look, think realtors make so much money, which it makes me laugh because they don’t realize what you spend. And I would imagine any small business in including chiropractic is like that you have insurance, you have offices, you have staff, tons of expenses. So that said still chiropractic is a, is a good business to get into a good field for people. They want to help someone. And I like, I really liked your niche, the sports arena helping athletes, I think you’re a good example of that being, being young and injuring yourself, you know, it, we do it all the time. We think we’re invincible. Let’s go lift a car. Seems like a good idea. Why not
Eddye Haro (41:25):
A small little hatchback. It’s just the humble 2000 to 2,500 pounds, whatever.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
But it’s, it’s not as easy as it looks now. And how, how long were you at led chiropractic school? So
Eddye Haro (41:44):
Four took a little longer in the clinic. So about four and a half
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Vicki Moore (41:50):
It’s a huge commitment. And I think anything that you do that you want bad enough and anything that you want to be successful at and it takes time. And I, I love that. I wonder example because he was probably a chiropractor for 30 years. By the time I was looking at his racing horses, you know, it doesn’t, it’s not, it’s not like you got out of school and all of a sudden, you know, he’s driving a Ferrari or something. It takes a long time and not everybody gets to that level. Not everybody wants to get to that level.
Eddye Haro (42:26):
No. Yeah. I mean, everybody has their own definition of success, you know? I mean, yeah, sure. You know, it’s, you’re definitely a success. Yeah. I want the big house. I want the Ferrari, I want this and that. All right. You know, more power to you, but you know, some people are, you know, they don’t need that much to be happy. You know, some, some people, you know, less is more, you know, as long as I’m, you know, comfortable knocking to provide for my family, you know, take care of myself, you know, pay the bills, you know, that’s, that’s enough, you know, that’s, that’s their, you know, version of success, you know? That’s
Vicki Moore (42:57):
Yeah. I think, I think for me, I was for a long time thinking, oh yeah, I want the big house. And then I see people that have that they’re not necessarily happy. And I think that’s, what’s going to make you happy. And then you, I had a big house, you know, and the fancy car and all that stuff. And that didn’t make me happy, but you know, sometimes you think it’s going to, and it’s really, that’s not it. No.
Eddye Haro (43:23):
So, I mean, going back to, you know, like what, you know, what I do, you know, treating patients, you know, when I see, like when I get a difficult case, you know, they do, do you look at it like, oh, like, what am I, what am I going to do here? Especially, you know, me being a young doctor, you know, I’m, I’m only almost a year out, but you know, the school and I’m still in my first year, but I’ve had some tough cases already done. I’m like, whoa, okay. This is the real world I got. What do I do? I mean, luckily I’ve Dr. Thomas, you know, to fall back on, you know, ask me what to do. But again, sometimes I don’t want to ask for help, you know, but I do like it, if it is, you know, over my head in the hall, I will ask that,
Vicki Moore (43:58):
Yeah, real estate is like that too. When I, when I started, they’re like, okay, there’s the phone, go get some clients. And I thought, I am not gonna, I’m not gonna learn how to sell real estate by trying it on somebody. I, I went and worked for someone for a long time, actually several times worked for an agent so that I could learn what to do. And you don’t want to just you know, I don’t want to do trial and error on, so
Eddye Haro (44:24):
Yeah. But then, you know, what, like what, what I’ve also learned is we’re keep more capable than we know. Like we have skills where you have the train. Yeah. And like don’t give ourselves credit. Yeah. So how do
Vicki Moore (44:36):
People reach you if they want to make an appointment or maybe they want to talk about being a chiropractor?
Eddye Haro (44:44):
Yeah, sure. I mean, they can reach us at my, on my Facebook page, Dr. Eddie HARO DC. They can call, call our office at (650) 738-2225 visit our website Pacific cairo.com or just stop by the office.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
Yeah. And you’re open to talking, talking to future chiropractors and giving them a few tips. And
Eddye Haro (45:11):
You know, I, I want to pass it forward, you know, Dr. Thomas, you know, he got me into chiropractic. He helped me out a lot, you know, and that’s, that’s all, you know, he, that’s why he brought me, brought me and also, you know, he, you know, you want, we want it to pass it forward. You know, you want to help somebody else, you know, he wants to, you know, spread chiropractor, you know, it’s not just about, you know, me or him, you know, doctors, but just chiropractic in general, wanna, he believes in it. He believes in it. Yeah. You know, it’s helped out. It’s helped a lot of people, you know, we see it every day. Yeah. Yeah. It works well. Thanks.
Thanks for coming out.
Thanks for having me.